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Putin-Trump Call: First Move Toward Friendship? – Alexander Mercouris

The Putin-Trump call: first move towards friendship?
By Alexander Mercouris

The Duran
January 29, 2017

Donald Trump (--The Duran)

Donald Trump (–The Duran)

The single most important fact known for certain about US President Trump’s and Russian President Putin’s first telephone conversation, with took place yesterday Saturday 28th January 2017, is that it lasted for a whole hour.

That is an unusually long time for two busy leaders such Trump and Putin to spend talking to each other. It shows that they not only took the call seriously but that they used it to discuss the full range of US-Russia relations, and – perhaps most important of all – to become acquainted with each other.

The last is important because both Trump and Putin are known to be individuals to whom trust and personal contact matter highly.

The importance of trust to both Trump and Putin was discussed in an interesting article by the British journalist Piers Morgan, who is a personal friend of Trump’s, who however has also obtained some unusual (for a British journalist) insight into Putin’s personality as a result of information given him to him about Putin by former US President Bill Clinton:

“Never break your word to him (Donald Trump -AM). Trump’s a very loyal guy, as I can personally attest. I’d bet very good money that if you keep your word to him, he will keep his to you. Remember, you don’t have to like him to do good business with him. Bill Clinton once told me that when he met with Vladimir Putin, they would eventually throw everyone else out of the room and go hard at each other until they reached points of agreement. Pertinently, Clinton said Putin never reneged on any of those personal agreements. His handshake was his bond. Trump is from that same old school of business dealings. And don’t gloat if you do get what you want tomorrow. Again, Clinton told me that the key aspect to his dealings with Putin was not to claim ‘victory’ or make him lose face back home in Russia. I would strongly recommend you adopt a similar philosophy with President Trump.”

Piers Morgan is absolutely right in saying that Putin places an exceptionally high value on honest dealing and trust. Anyone who has followed Putin’s career closely is aware of the exceptional importance of trust to him. A key reason why Putin’s personal relationship with former US President Obama collapsed so completely was because – as a result of Obama’s record of broken promises – Putin decided he could no longer trust him.

The fact that someone like Piers Morgan who knows Trump well says that for Trump trust and honest dealing are equally important, is a good sign for Trump’s and Putin’s future relationship.

As for the contents of the first ever conversation between Trump and Putin, the Kremlin has provided an unusually detailed summary:

“Vladimir Putin congratulated Donald Trump on taking office and wished him every success in his work.

“During the conversation, both sides expressed their readiness to make active joint efforts to stabilise and develop Russia-US cooperation on a constructive, equitable and mutually beneficial basis.

“Mr Putin and Mr Trump had a detailed discussion of pressing international issues, including the fight against terrorism, the situation in the Middle East, the Arab-Israeli conflict, strategic stability and non-proliferation, the situation with Iran’s nuclear programme, and the Korean Peninsula issue. The discussion also touched upon the main aspects of the Ukrainian crisis. The sides agreed to build up partner cooperation in these and other areas.

“The two leaders emphasised that joining efforts in fighting the main threat – international terrorism – is a top priority. The presidents spoke out for establishing real coordination of actions between Russia and the USA aimed at defeating ISIS and other terrorists groups in Syria.

“The sides stressed the importance of rebuilding mutually beneficial trade and economic ties between the two counties’ business communities, which could give an additional impetus to progressive and sustainable development of bilateral relations.

“Mr Putin and Mr Trump agreed to issue instructions to work out the possible date and venue for their meeting.

“Donald Trump asked to convey his wishes of happiness and prosperity to the Russian people, saying that the American people have warm feelings towards Russia and its citizens.

“Vladimir Putin, in turn, emphasised that the feeling is mutual, adding that for over two centuries Russia has supported the United States, was its ally during the two world wars, and now sees the United States as a major partner in fighting international terrorism.

“The two leaders agreed to maintain regular personal contacts.

“The conversation took place in a positive and constructive atmosphere.”

The single most important words in this summary are those in the last few paragraphs.

Trump – most unusually for a US President – went out of his way to wish “happiness and prosperity to the Russian people” and to assure Putin of “the American people have warm feelings towards Russia and its citizens”.

That is exactly the right way to get on the right side of Putin, who has had to endure decades of criticism, abuse and lectures, not just of himself but also of Russia, from US and Western leaders. Such warm words from a US President are not something Putin has been hearing recently, and he was clearly moved by them, as the warm way he reciprocated shows:

“Vladimir Putin, in turn, emphasised that the feeling is mutual, adding that for over two centuries Russia has supported the United States, was its ally during the two world wars, and now sees the United States as a major partner in fighting international terrorism.”

The reference to the “two centuries Russia has supported the United States” refers to Russia’s support to the American colonists during the American War of Independence, and to the US during the civil war.

Note that Putin also referred to Russia being the US’s ally during the two world wars, as opposed to saying that it was the US which had been Russia’s ally.

In other words, in response to Trump’s warm words about Russia and its people, Putin went out of his way to assure Trump that Russia wants to be the US’s friend, and its ally in the war against ISIS and Jihadi terrorism, as it has been its ally in the world wars in the past.

The Kremlin summary ends with words once common in official summaries of diplomatic exchanges but which are rarely used today

“The conversation took place in a positive and constructive atmosphere.”

That this was actually so is shown by the positive comments from US and Russian officials in the hours following the call. As anyone who has worked in a government bureaucracy knows, officials quickly catch the mood of their chiefs, which percolate down the command chain at extraordinary speed. The fact that officials in both the US and Russia were talking positively about the call in the hours immediately following it is the clearest possible sign that the conversation between the two Presidents went well.

The Kremlin’s summary of the call shows the range of subjects discussed: the Middle East, the Arab-Israeli conflict, the Iran nuclear deal, arms control, the crisis in the Korean Peninsula, and of course Ukraine.

Again Putin will have been gratified that a US President is finally talking to him in this way, discussing the full range of international questions with the President of Russia in a way that finally acknowledges Russia’s position as a Great Power. After the bullying and condescension of the George W. Bush and Barack Obama eras, it will have come as both a relief and a pleasure.

The focus of the conversation was however clearly the putative alliance the US and Russia are forming to fight ISIS and Jihadi terrorism together. Putin has been calling for this since his speech to the UN General Assembly in September 2015. As recently as September 2016 the Kerry-Lavrov agreement appeared to have agreed this, only for the alliance to be sabotaged by the Pentagon and the hardliners in the Obama administration. Now that the sabotage of these people is in the past, it appears that this alliance is actually finally happening.

On the subject of the sanctions the Kremlin’s summary of the Trump-Putin conversation has nothing to say, but it does contain an extended passage about a joint desire to develop economic and commercial relations which does indirectly touch on the question of the sanctions

“The sides stressed the importance of rebuilding mutually beneficial trade and economic ties between the two countries’ business communities, which could give an additional impetus to progressive and sustainable development of bilateral relations.”

Since he became US President Donald Trump’s closeness to the US oil industry has become increasingly clear, and Trump has of course picked Rex Tillerson – Exxon’s former CEO – as his choice for Secretary of State.

The US oil industry has an understandable interest in working with Russia – the world’s biggest energy producer – and that is probably where the initial contacts between “the two countries’ business communities” mentioned in the Kremlin summary will start.

The key point – which both Trump and Putin of course know – is that this cannot happen without the sanctions being lifted. The fact that Trump and Putin talked about establishing “mutually beneficial trade and economic ties between the two countries’ business communities” therefore means that Trump is fully resolved to lift the sanctions as soon as he feels he can, even if for political reasons he cannot for the moment say so.

On the subject of the US-Russian trade relationship, Trump and Putin touched on another important point. This is that – as many commentators on international affairs acknowledge – the almost complete lack of economic contacts between the US and Russia has up to now has been a major cause in the repeated failure of their political relationship.

Both men clearly understand this, and realise that it is the development of strong commercial and trade relations between the US and Russia which is needed in order to underpin their political relationship so as to make it both successful and permanent. The wording of the Kremlin’s summary of their conversation (“the importance of rebuilding mutually beneficial trade and economic ties….which could give an additional impetus to progressive and sustainable development of bilateral relations”) shows this.

In summary, the conversation between Trump and Putin went well, as well indeed as could be expected. As the Piers Morgan article shows, the two men have a great deal in common even if their personalities are in many ways very different.

The direction of the conversation also shows something else. This is that Donald Trump has an understanding of human psychology, and possesses diplomatic skills, which few up to now have credited him. He seems to have conducted his conversation with Putin with great skill. For the first time since he became Russia’s leader Putin appears to have a US President who appears to have diplomatic skills to match his own.

Orlando Health: Data on Shooting Victims June 16, 2016

In response to Paul Craig Roberts’ observation that little factual evidence of the Orlando mass shooting has been documented, the following image posted on Twitter June 16, 2016 may help to verify the shooting actually did occur.

It remains unknown, however, why the number killed as a result of the incident has not been updated in media reports.

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Zakharchenko’s Direct Line Conference with Residents of Karkhov – Full Text – April 21, 2016

Quemado Institute
Source: DAN
Automatic translation (unedited)
April 21, 2016

Introduction by Quemado Institute

slavapr21uTime constraints and the length of DPR President Zakharchenko’s Direct Line Conference with residents of Kharkov did not allow for a proper translation of this important and illuminating event. What follows is an automatic translation without any editing, so the text is very approximate. We may update periodically with minor improvements to the transcript.

Zakharchenko speaks frankly and openly on participants’ questions about the Donbass war, Igor Strelkov (called “Gunmen” in the autotranslation), the assassinations of NAF commanders, the Kiev leadership, and the role of the United States in instigating the conflict.

Again, in our opinion, President of the Donetsk People’s Republic Alexander Zakharchenko proves himself a leader of caliber comparable to that of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

[Editor’s note: We have accumulating evidence that CIA employees directly monitor and censor websites that publish Zakharchenko’s speeches. Hello CIA analysts! We are happy you are interested in the truth, and hope you enjoy the following article! If Donald Trump gets elected, we suspect you’ll be out of job! We’re sure you’ll find a better one! No hard feelings!]

Zakharchenko online.

slavapr21tZakharchenko: Dear Kharkov! Thank you for what you are not afraid to ask a question and that matters were essentially and important both for you and for us. Of course, not all the questions I had to answer – there are several thousand. But as the full version of our communication with you will continue to stay on this page, I will try to answer more questions later on the other. And I promise that in the near future will hold another online conference with other regions.

14:35

Hi, I live in Kharkov, 29 years! And for the last 3 years the level of my life and my family has plummeted, it became critical to earn money for living! He took part in the preservation of order in Kharkov in the spring of 2014, Kharkov has spoken in the spring of 2014 to sign for the preservation of Lenin! After all, he knew that such a change would lead to a halt of production and wage delays and higher prices! But, apparently, the authorities Kiev to crush the resistance! Question: In vain were the efforts of million of Kharkiv ???

Z: No, dear, not in vain! The fact that Kharkiv came to protest and fought as best they could – is it possible to preserve the honor of Kharkov! And the memory of this must support you today. With regard to the deterioration of living standards, then nothing else and will not be until the oligarchs in power, and even under external management. Where’s your president account? In the West? So why be surprised that it is a manual complies with all of the US team and the IMF? We are here rejected such authority and build – People – Republic, in which the main objective is precisely the welfare and well-being of citizens. And this despite the war and the economic blockade from Kiev.

And you try to ask all say that the economic condition has deteriorated Donbass. Also, all say that the economic situation of Ukraine worsened. What is the difference? We have a war, destruction and the economic blockade. And in Ukraine? Why do they have the economy “falls” and people get poorer? We are here all forces and put every penny on it to keep rates on pre-war level. We carry out special market measures to bring down the prices of basic foodstuffs. And in Ukraine? Draw conclusions and make decisions about their future and the future of your children.

14:25

We Raisin in complete chaos. Demolish monuments, street names change, the junta robbing us as sticky. Dear Alexander, whether you want to attach the Kharkiv region to the NPT? And if you plan to, when. And please, if you can, let’s not delay. I artillery battalion reactive than I can – help.

Z: I have already said that attach Kharkiv region, like everyone else, to him we will not. It should have a choice of Kharkiv themselves. But if things are so bad you do, you have to look for ways of resistance. Do not give up!

14:20

Good day and thank you and all those who heroically defended their right to a normal life. As I understand it, one of the main issues – not only fighting, but also debugging issues vital Donetsk and Lugansk regions apart from the central government. What do you think, what level of self-sufficiency is already available in DNI, LC? In Kharkov – where to get new control frames if people seriously disappointed in today’s “patriots” and those who are behind-Kernes Dobkin?

Zakharchenko online (7) Prior to full self-sufficiency us far, for obvious reasons. However, here it is not about Kiev. Kiev only hurts. Today, we are largely dependent on the assistance of the Russian Federation. This also applies to humanitarian aid, and issues of economic cooperation, cultural cooperation. Many of the materials and products never produced in the Donbass, so help RF invaluable. However, increasing self-sufficiency. We are increasing production capacity, expanding the range of goods produced in the territory of the DNI. If a year ago, under the concept of deficit fell almost everything today, this list has become quite small.

With regard to Kharkiv and lack of personnel. Here you can learn from us. After the outbreak of war escaped from Donbass thousand people, and they were mostly government officials, businessmen and managers. We drew pictures of the people and the policy paid off. Yes, not all mastered, much needed time for training. But over time, the situation began to stabilize. So I’m sure the residents of Kharkiv region will find the talent pool of those who are not indifferent to the fate of their homeland. Well and share staff can, of course – not strangers after all.
14:18

I want to be the leader of the DNI. How to do it?

Very simple. It is necessary to obtain citizenship of the DNI and the election to earn the trust of residents, so they voted for you. Here we have nothing new to invent)

14:10

Alexander, you realize that the people of Ukraine for you and your collaborators – collaborators and that you will answer for the suffering of millions of people?

slavapr21sZ: I can not agree with you. First, the terminology. “Collaborators” – a person who cooperates with the occupying power, right? We have in the Donbass occupiers not – we are on their own land and are fighting for their homes with those who come to us from other territories with weapons in their hands to kill us. So are the occupiers those Ukrainian soldiers who now occupy beyond the control of the DNI of the former Donetsk region, terrorized – murder and thrown into prison – those of our countrymen who have participated in the organization of a referendum May 11, 2014 – the most democratic procedures of those who invented European civilization.

Accordingly, the collaborators, we can assume that those who are on our occupied territories cooperates with the Kiev regime.

Zakharchenko online (14) But these people we do not call collaborators, by the way. Each made his choice, and after we regain control over the occupied territories, they will be able to quietly leave or stay. Although it may be at times limited in their rights (for example, will not work in the civil service, etc.).

14:09

Hello, Alexander. Please tell us, in fact the case in the DNI, in all spheres of life. Information in the media do not, a lie. And on the Internet – an incomplete picture. Thank you.

Z: This I can talk all day, and the time of our on-line conference is limited. So I can not yet offer nothing better than the Internet. By the way, the Internet can find a lot of scenes shot on our lives as the Donetsk channels “1st National”, “Union”, “Hold”, “TV New Russia” and Russian. Here and about war, and about the world. And on agriculture, and on education and medicine, and industrial enterprises, and about the environment. And, most importantly, the history of the people – our heroic people.

14:05

Former antimaydanovets: Do you not understand that mentality counted Kharkiv is fundamentally different from the mentality rustic donbasstsev. And after two years ATU – you have lost the support remnants of the city, even among former antimaydanovtsev? As the saying goes, charity begins to the body, and none of us wants to lose a house, apartment, freedom, health and life. I am sure one hundred percent that you have to put Kharkov cross. Mass support in Kharkiv you will not wait for sure.

Z: Firstly, I’m sure you’re wrong. Maybe because you most ashamed of what you have betrayed your ideals, you are trying to present the case so that all the others also came. This is not true.

Secondly, it means that we have to put on the cross Kharkov? The main thing is to Kharkiv and Kharkiv do not put on a cross, as did, apparently, you, “the former antimaydanovets”.

14:02

Why among warlords DNI killed primarily ideological supporters Novorosii, and whether there are any results of the investigation of their deaths?

Zakharchenko online (2) We have in the Donetsk People’s Republic of warlords if perish on the battlefield. They were all patriots of Donbass. A investigation of their deaths, we are engaged in – Ukrainian track down the names of those commanders who gave the criminal orders to open fire, and the soldiers who executed this criminal order. All these war crimes would end sooner or later by the court for war criminals – accomplices of the illegal regime in Kiev.

13:59

Question from Andrew Melnikov, an employee of the People’s Council of the NPT system. Asked in the studio.

Kharkiv servicemen, ex-servicemen and their families interested in the question about business activity, a job and settle matters with personal documents. They have problems due to the fact that they do not have a local residence. It possible to create a representative body in the power of the DNI or territorial fraternities to address such issues here?

Z: Regarding entrepreneurial activities by military personnel. The document, which regenerates all these difficulties – a military ID. Here, any Kharkiv citizen can get a job and to do business. Since we started issuing passports, it does not matter to us, Kharkivshchina or not. Passport, you are required to receive and, according to this document, you will receive all the full civil rights. With regard to national groups I have two hands “for”! Not territorial fraternity as well representative of the Kharkiv region. I believe that not only Kharkiv, but also Odessa citizens are fighting with us. We need to create fraternity and Odessa and Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye and Kiev. We have people from these regions. If need be – always will render any assistance.

13:57

Can a resident of the Kharkiv region and other regions of Ukraine to obtain the DNI passport?

Zakharchenko online (6) To do this, move to the NPT, to join the Republic and to apply to the Migration Service at the place of residence. It is understood that a passport of a citizen DNI, this is not the box on the table and a pennant. It is a question of responsibility. With all the attendant rights and responsibilities.

13:46

DNR does not actually participated in the presidential elections in Ukraine in 2014. Given that today the international community (as well as the republic itself) do not deny belonging to Ukraine, if you intend to challenge the legality of the election results?

Z: I have repeatedly said that the election Poroshenko was flawed from the perspective of law and democratic procedures. Not only is that not all of the claimed territory of Kiev took part in the elections, so still and held them against the background of an incredible political terror, when candidates were beaten and threatened with death. Against this background, our referendum and elections in 2014 were much more democratic, and the turnout was extremely high, even for the pre-war Ukraine. Is it on this basis to challenge the legality of the election Poroshenko? I think in the near future this will not be necessary, because they do not believe in long life Poroshenko as president. A sue? Let suing the Ukrainian people – it’s his trouble.

13:37

Explain all that behind you build a state? Why is “popular”? Where are your famous oligarchs?

slavapr21rZ: We have before our eyes two negative example and a huge amount of positive. Negative examples – it is Ukraine, as it was before the coup d’état and, especially as it became AFTER coup and came to power Bandera and neo-Nazis. Russia stands out among the positive examples.

DSC_2001 We are building a state, whose main task – well-being, both material and spiritual, of the people. That’s why we are called the “People’s Republic”. To achieve results, we need to eliminate the two main evils that corrode and continue to erode the Ukrainian government – oligarchy and its associated corruption. And these vices so ingrained in the very fabric of the state, that to uproot them is difficult. But we’re not going to give up.

And most importantly, the positive task. We are building a state for which the citizen is the alpha and omega in deed and not in words. Here is a simple example. Any savings penny we spend on it to the standard of living of our population increased. We hold tariffs for pre-war level. We have the economic means to bring down the prices of food and basic consumer goods. All the work of the economic block of our government aims to increase the pensions, benefits, scholarships, salaries. This is – a priority. And the results are already there. It is in Ukraine World Bank records increase in the level of poverty, that is a negative trend. We have positive dynamics. Of course, in conditions of war and economic blockade, it is difficult, but we’re working on it.

13:36

Do you believe in God?

Z: Yes I believe you. This, in my opinion, the natural state of man – to believe in God. And the rest is a personal question, and I do not think we should dwell on this.

13:35

Alexander, what is your attitude to the Kiev authorities? What are its prospects?
Zakharchenko online (5) This mode, which is the result of a coup d’etat and, in particular, so it rests on the violence (political terror) and a lie. How can you relate to such a regime? Does he have a future? Of course have. Question – how. At the very poor and the evil regime, as well as in humans, there is an opportunity to become even worse and angrier. This is also the future. But this is the future, what I do not want the people of Ukraine. I think that the Ukrainian people have paid a heavy price already for having committed a coup and the coming to power of Bandera and neo-Nazis.

There is another variant of the future. It’s more or less if the healthy forces in the current government will begin systematic work to rid the country of neo-Nazis and criminals and will take the conversion of the state – his return to the path of civilized development. Possible such an option? Of course. But this requires a few conditions. And above all – the people’s will expressed clearly and loudly. So it depends on you and on the inhabitants of other regions of Ukraine.

13:26

Why it started and why the war continues?

Z; The war began, we did not – usurpers of power in Kiev. ATO. We held a peaceful referendum – the most democratic event, and we responded with tanks and “Grad”.

To continue the war because that Kiev is not capable of a political settlement. Reason: The permanent political crisis. In these circumstances, the possibility of an escalation of the armed conflict in the Donbass – is an opportunity to extend its power. We – are ready for a political settlement on the basis of direct dialogue and the mutual recognition of each other’s rights.

 

13:25

What good is all the Minsk agreements? And in Ukraine, too?

Z: Minsk agreement: firstly a ceasefire, and therefore saving of lives as the militiamen and civilians Donbass. Second, the “Minsk-2” – this is our diplomatic victory, comparable with the victory under Debaltsevo. We are forced to Kiev to sign the political part of the package of measures which will lead to the degeneration of the authorities in Kiev. Third, the Minsk agreement – this is a sample, for example the regions of Ukraine. They are written that you may require from Kiev. And this can be done through political means. If you do, our sacrifices will be justified in two ways.

I will not say that we did it for you. No, we have had to struggle for the sake of themselves, their parents and their children. But one of the natural consequences of our struggle is the potential for you and the residents of other regions to produce their own expense usurpers of power in Kiev.

13:23

Svetlana Nastaseva, “Ukrainian national news” (UNN): How do you feel about the fact that Russian President Vladimir Putin during a telephone conversation with President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko supported the introduction of armed OSCE police mission in the Donbass?

Zakharchenko online (11) Let’s start with the fact that Russian President Vladimir Putin did not say anything about the introduction of armed OSCE police mission in Donbass. Conventional juggling. Putin said that the issue of small arms OSCE observers. We are talking only about strengthening the security of OSCE personnel, and not about changing or expanding their mandate.

Accordingly, I am against the expansion or change of the OSCE mandate in the Donbass, but I have nothing against that, to increase the safety of OSCE personnel. Although, in my opinion, it was easier to contact us, and we have ensured the safety of their employees.

But I know someone who will treat with great enthusiasm to improve the security of OSCE personnel, if it leads to an improvement in their work. They are our front-line people of the territories. They know if they have a “guest” of the OSCE mission – hence, the Ukrainian military did not fire at our territory. As soon as employees leave the OSCE – shelling resumed.

Chapter DNI began to answer questions residents of Kharkiv region in real time.

12:59

When the war is over? What decisions need to be taken for this purpose?

Z: For this purpose it is necessary to fulfill Minsk agreements. And this, in turn, need to create the necessary political conditions in Kiev. Probably, under pressure and using Western supervisors, especially in the US. Then we are the people of Kiev are going to look at each other not through the sniper rifle sight, and in the eye through the negotiating table.

There is an easier way. The inhabitants of the Kharkov region, as well as residents of other regions of Ukraine, can surrender their weapons and return home. If you are afraid of repression, then it’s better to run away, for example, in Russia. Let us not forget that in order to ensure that the criminal order has led to the tragedy, it is necessary to have someone executed the order. Ukrainian generals and politicians who give criminal orders, shoot themselves will not.

12:57

Can residents freely DNI acquire weapons in the store?

Z: At the moment, the process of registration and withdrawal of weapons from the population of weapons acquired illegally. When it is completed, it is possible that the issue will be put on sale in stores of weapons, and I do not rule out that it will be resolved positively.

12:56

Uv. Alexander Zakharchenko, you have a war going on. I am a simple worker, mow from the army – you want to live. But I can not help but ask the question: When future victory over the junta and its complete surrender it possible to impose the death penalty on its commanders? Including over supreme command of Ukraine, in connection with the criminal orders to bomb peaceful cities?

Z: Such questions should be decided by the people through a referendum even possible.

12:55

Good day, Alexander. Please tell us, what do you see the prospects of economic relations with the Kharkov enterprises, after the civil war in Ukraine in general and in particular the Donbass.

Z: I hope that before the end of the war still remain in Kharkov company. Judging by the political and economic course of the Kiev authorities, the Ukrainian economy in general and Kharkiv in particular experiencing the last days. Businesses closed, destroyed whole sectors of the economy. However, the Kharkiv region is very promising for cooperation. Even today, when the Donbass in the blockade, our entrepreneurs are finding ways for economic and trade relations with the Kharkov business. After the settlement of the situation, these relationships will deepen.

Donbass – the region of the miners and metallurgists. Kharkov – is a powerful engineering base. Despite decades of destruction of the Kharkov economic and industrial potential in Ukraine, the oligarchs cut of entire plants, the minimum and innovative investment opportunities, Kharkiv is attractive for cooperation the city. Donbass after the war will have to be restored. Enterprises will need to rise from the ruins and the Kharkov engineering will help us in this.

12:53

The Internet is often written that the militia of New Russia has repeatedly fought with American soldiers and US Marines were killed by Ilovaiskaya. How do you comment?

slavapr21qZ: The fact that on the side of the Ukrainian army and terbatalonov fought and are fighting the mercenaries from various countries, including the United States, is not a secret to anyone. Comment here is nothing special. Obviously, our conflict has long internationalized, with a very clear line of fracture. On the one hand – the neo-Nazis of all nationalities, and on the other, our part – anti-fascists. Well, let’s not forget that on the side of Ukraine’s present commercial component – PMC mercenaries single.

We are, in fact, do not care who win on the battlefield – from terbatalonov punitive or American (Polish, Czech and so on.) Mercenaries.

12:52

Persha bіda scho spіtkala our great Batkіvschinu – tse CCB rozval CPCP. Іnshіna stupnі tragedії nashoї maloї Batkivshchyna – Ukraine (including i have Slobozhanshchina) – tse factuality zahoplennyat s “INTER-zakulіsoyu” usogo Promyslova that s / g їїpotentsіalіv. Tse Bulo zrobleno at poserednitstvі, that for bezposerednoї uchastі kompradorіv-zradnikіvsvogo people – kompartіyno-komsomolskoї nomenclature, that krimіnalіtetu, scho Zgoda steel “olіgarhatom”, that “polіtichnoyu elіtoyu”. Tsya svolota target Taku Yurydychna base, it has allowed for scho chvert stolіttya Get out pozbaviti svoєї zagalnonatsіonalnoї vlasnostі blizko 50 million. Peresіchnih gromadyan, practical vіdstoroniti їh od upravlіnnya svoєyu Powers abo local boards. Heel Chastina population peredchasno vіdpravlena on tsvintarabozmushe napoїhatiget, Ti, scho zalishilisya – obіkradenі, znedolenі, zpiyachenі, demoralіzovanі that dezіntelektualіzovanі. Tragіchnim, ale zakonomіrnim, fіnalom peredostannogo zlodіyskogo regime “godfather Janek” becoming іnspіrovany ‘s over the hill “Reigning coup scho prizvіv to de-facto« zabugornoї okupatsії “bіlshoї Chastain teritorії moєї Kraina. Users healthy gluzdu chekayut, that gotovі priynyati fate in Vizvolennі svoєї rіdnoї Zemlі! Got no great significance, yak bude ymenuvatisya maybutnya Power, yak, vіryu, vіdroditsya on ninіshnіh ruїnah. Rozkazhіt, whether weasel, shanovny Olexander, about your Buchan virіshennya power just Povernennya zagalnonatsіonalno їvlasnostі Nashomu that prevent people from nіkoli vsіgіlkimaybutno їvladi people scho zabrudnili own blood, zradnitstvom, zlodіystvom defamation the chi. Yaku role in stvorennі that upravlіnnі maybutnoyu powers Wee vbachaєte for zalishkі in spravzhnoї ukraїnskoї іntelіgentsії?

Z: The role of the true Ukrainian intelligentsia is to bring back to consciousness of the Ukrainian people, to return it to the high road of civilization. Again, explain to him what is good and what is bad. Again teach openness and capacity for dialogue and understanding. And the main role of this Ukrainian intelligentsia – it is a struggle for the minds of young citizens of Ukraine, which treats cruelly misanthropic Russophobic propaganda.

12:50

How can you explain, from a moral point of view, the passive action of Kiev Kharkiv against the Nazi regime and their participation in the production of weapons used against civilians Donbass?

Z: Not sure I have the right to moralize about it. Kharkiv themselves judge. I can only assume that the protest in Kharkov, as we do, began spontaneously, and we confronted the enemy and trained thinking systemically (although make mistakes). Just quickly, we were able to organize themselves, and there were people who took responsibility to get out on the parapet and remove the mask. And political terror, which gave the Kiev regime in Kharkiv, seems reached the goal. At least for a while. I’m sure not all. Either Kharkiv will meet with the forces or the enemy will retreat – to relax or weaken.

As for the weapons, which produces and repairs Kharkov, and which then kills the people we have in the Donbass, here is more complicated. I remember we had a dialogue with our miners. Asked why they, instead of going to battle, go down into the mines and work in Kiev? And they said, children have to be fed. The logic of our response is: do you support the DNI, but the work on the Ukrainian mines; income from your labor go to Kiev for the money Kiev (for example, in Kharkov) produces weapons which then comes to your house and kill your children. The ones that you have to feed.

As a result, we have a miner’s division.

12:49

What is the New Russia, and where to find it on the map? What has to Harkov unrecognized formations DNR and LC?

Z: Dear, do not look in the morning Ukrainian card. Because if you believe in the card, which you will sell in Kiev store, you will be poorly oriented in space. Especially if you buy a map of highways. For the map, which is from Kiev, you can go to so much trouble, that only saw in the movies. For example, if “Ukrainian” road will go to the east or southeast. That is, in the Crimea or in the Donbass.

If essentially the Novorossia You can find historical maps. And then already think of themselves. Our days prove – nothing is eternal in this world, and things can change very suddenly and quickly. Look at the map of the former Ukraine, for example. On this card.

A Kharkiv for DNR and LNR – the neighboring region in which they live our relatives, brothers and associates, companions and friends.

12:47

Hello Alexander! I am a resident of Makeyevka, in 2014 was forced to enter one of the Kharkov high schools, as later regretted, tell what is your attitude to such people (after all such cases, as I have, not isolated), provided that after the expiration of training they sincerely want to go back and help the Republic?

Z: No offense, but I recall the old Russian proverb: for one broken two unbeaten give. If you yourself have recognized the error of his decision, but still, as I understand, from personal experience, not from books or TV, you can count on a warm welcome from his fellow countrymen in Makeyevka, and in general we have in the Donetsk Republic.

12:42

America invaded Ukraine and destroys us. Resists only Donbass. What to do?

Z: There is a formula that describes our possible actions – emphasize action rather than inaction – in relation to a phenomenon which, as it seems, it is useless to resist. For example, a talk about the globalization process. CAN NOT RESIST, BUT NECESSARY. At least in order to stay yourself and not become a necessity is erratic.

12:39

Gunmen / Girkin – friend or foe? A simple question, and I would like to hear a direct and simple answer. A dot the «i».

Z: How Vysotsky sang, and not a friend and not an enemy, and – so. This question “simply” can not be answered. Each played a role in the history of our struggle, including the Gunners. The role of an important but controversial.

12:38

In the next school year, the child finishes school. We would like to become a student of one of the universities of Donetsk. Is it possible to distance learning option without leaving the temporarily occupied territory (Kramatorsk) or from other regions of Ukraine?

Z: I understand the desire of your child will learn in the People’s Republic of Donetsk, in fact a very strong scientific and research base in our institutions. Nor is it necessary to regularly ride on the Maidan.

Become a student of the Donetsk University can any graduate of Ukraine, you must have a certificate of secondary education. Including the Ukrainian sample, but always original. Be sure to come to the NPT, to submit documents to the selection committee and entrance exams.

We have a level playing field for training at the expense of the budget for the graduates of the NPT, and of graduates who came from Ukraine.

In the universities of the Republic, there are both full-time and part-time and distance learning.

12:38

Your opinion – if we have a chance to get rid of “poroshenok”, “Groisman,” “Baptists of the National Security Council,” speakers from the Maidan, and other enemies of our people, bearing in mind that the US roof very solid? Little Ones, playing in the yard, at war with the Russian, unfortunately …

Z: There is always a chance. From us to you it depends on whether we can take advantage of it. American roof, agree, is strong and against us by professionals because of the high level of the ocean. But we were not born yesterday. First and foremost, we have to do – it’s the Ukrainian people to return to consciousness. The process is extremely simple: to bring to the attention of the people the truth. In general, it is true – the most powerful weapon in the information war. And by the way, the most economical.

As long as we all – each in different ways – Maidana resist the regime and the actual US occupation, we still have a chance.

But what you said about the Little Ones in the yard – it’s really scary. This can not be allowed! And it’s taking care of the family. I understand that brainwash children in the Ukraine are already beginning to kindergarten age, but every child from kindergarten comes home in the evening. And every parent should know that have invested in the little head of his child, and tell and show him the truth. That was how it should be. Books, fairy tales, cartoons, films – these are our tools for saving and preserving children’s consciousness. And most importantly, perhaps, it’s bedtime. But it is impossible to ride. If you do not put special effort for the salvation of your children’s mind, the state machine grind them and make them even your enemies.

Let us not forget that the civil war in Ukraine, the efforts of usurping power in Kiev gradually transformed from “horizontal” – it is a conflict in the Donbass – in the “vertical” – it is a conflict between the generations. Maidana government wants to take away your children and grandchildren, to oppose them to you. For this to rewrite history for this forbidden books and movies. The Ukrainian government wants you, your children and grandchildren watched different films and read different books that you lost your children and grandchildren a common language. Here it is necessary to resist the daily and hourly!

12:35

Many experts predict DNR and LNR fate of Transnistria. What do you think about this, whether this is going?

Z: Indeed, a comparison of Donbass with Transnistria sounds often. We are talking about a “frozen conflict” as a result of a political settlement. It is theoretically possible option. But Donbass fundamentally different from Transnistria that we have a common border with Russia. This radically changes the situation. We will not turn starve. However, already it happened.

12:29

MP from the Party of dill – Sasha, calm down! Spend a normal referendum and fell to please Russia) Be the Ukrainians alone!

Z: MP, cheer up! Make click Kiev remove troops from the territory of Donetsk region – ALL – and then we will hold a referendum peacefully. And we will do as our people say.

12:26

If the Russian Federation refuses to help the DNI, your actions?

Z: Firstly, I still believe in Russia and that it will help. And I had no reason to doubt with regard to our Russian.

Secondly, all our efforts are focused on the economy in the production of goods and services, rather than on how to distribute aid from Russia. And we will continue to build our economy. We’re only now understand how we cheated Kiev 25 years, with the help of fraud and corruption schemes by creating the image of a subsidized region. Even now, in times of war and economic blockade, when many mines destroyed, we have surpassed the pre-war production levels. Reason one – we have eliminated corruption and theft.

12:24

Good day, Alexander. Easy-whether to switch from the decision of general economic issues to the problems of war, and vice versa? How quickly able to adapt? What is the shape of the head is closer to you: strong economic or warlord?

Z: Switch is sometimes difficult. The main thing is to rebuild the internal rhythm. In military matters, the decision must be taken as quickly as possible – this is often dependent on the lives of your comrades. But in economic matters – on the contrary, we must take the time to think things through, to consider different options. So the switch is difficult, but possible, and I think that has already obtained) As for the “image leader”, then honestly tell you, this is no time to think about. Now we are faced with both a military tasks and chores. And we will solve them as they become available.

12:20

Are you prepared in case of an election in the Donbas, prevent Ukrainian Nazi Party, are in favor of the resumption of fighting you? If so, what parties can be allowed?

Z: I have already had occasion to speak about it, even in relation to specific parties. The answer is simple: all the parties that are directly or indirectly supported the punitive operation against Kiev Donbass, will not participate in our elections. It is excluded. And it’s not just a matter of policy, but also a safety issue. How do you imagine the agitators of the party “Freedom” or “Right sector” we have in Donetsk near the airport, where there is no whole-house or in Gorlovka, which is still under fire, or Debalcevo that Ukrainian military just methodically destroyed before how to escape or surrender? Residents of these agitators tear to pieces. No power can stop people in the world who have lost their loved ones, homes, which destroyed lives. No army is not enough to save the agitators, for example, “Right sector” from lynching by the local residents. As for the political side of this question, I once said that there is a chance to try to participate in our elections by the “opposition bloc”. But on one condition. This party, which by their presence in Parliament indirectly legalized punitive operation in the Donbass, should publicly – emphasize publicly! – To repent of complicity in the actions of the Kiev regime and condemn the crimes that were committed Maidan power against his own people.

12:15

How are you going to build a foreign economy, if the republic is not recognized by almost any country in the world?

Z: We’re not going – we are building. And trade with other countries, including Ukraine. Here in fact is simple: if we produce food and goods that are in demand in the international markets, the business, including a foreign language, he will find a way to purchase our products and goods. And is, I assure you.

Last year we were even forced to impose a moratorium on the sale of grain abroad, as demand was very high, and we had to first meet their needs. ”

12:08

Hello! Tell me, is there any rational reason to hold war Kharkiv in Kharkov for the “Russian world”, in Donetsk? For what? For passports, that no one recognizes or for the sake of pensioners went to the junta for pensions and products through the roadblocks?

Z: You did not put the question. Firstly, I will not wish the war. No Donbass nor Kharkov, and no one else. Because I know what war is, I know what death is at war, I know what it’s like when you die at the hands of friends and comrades. In general, I believe that the real value of the world known only to those who were in the war.

As for the inconveniences and hardships, through which our people – the roadblocks and the like – it is not a goal but the price of victory. Regularly talking to people and getting acquainted with the results of opinion polls, I know that the residents of Donbass mostly consciously relate to and understand the difficulties for which tolerate them.

A goal, that is what you call “for which” the other. Briefly it can be stated as follows: the right to be yourself. We do not want to be using violence and manipulation of consciousness altered by banderovsy standard. We do not want our children to have hammered in the head are not real history of the country’s non-existent. We do not want our children to swear allegiance to the “precepts” Bandera.

And we want to make our parents proud of what they have achieved in their lives. And our children to respect their grandfathers and great grandfathers, and revered as heroes who really gave their lives for us to be at all.

12:04

Alexander, please tell me, we all want you to become the President of Ukraine. When you become them, what will you do with Turchinov and Yatsenyuk?

Z: I can not say now who will be the president of Ukraine, when it comes to, will return to the normal system of moral coordinates. But I am sure that any president will be obliged to initiate criminal prosecution Turchinov, Yatsenyuk Nalyvaychenko, Parubiya and many others, so to speak, “figures” that coup, unleashed after the country’s civil war. So – in court!
12:00

Is it possible to unite Ukraine as it was before the Maidan? It is clear that the current Kiev government is not able to. Do you have the strength and capabilities to such a union or your goal only New Russia?

Recent history shows that nothing is impossible. Who could have imagined three years ago that we will build the Donetsk People’s Republic. The same can be said about Ukraine. Future multivariate. The main question – what principles can reunite Ukraine. It may sound corny, but to join you first need to disconnect. I think that all the regions must first obtain the best possible autonomy to develop their own rules of life in accordance with their traditions and visions of the future, and then they can all pereuchredit Ukraine.

Maybe on a federal, but rather on the confederal basis. Thus, it will be possible to take into account the specificity of all parts of Ukraine, their diversity and otherness, and thus to develop common rules. Only in this way can avoid a violent unification, whether it is under the banner of Bandera or some other. Relatively speaking, the process should start from the bottom, not the top.

11:58

Alexander, there is a possibility in Kharkiv somehow get a new history textbook of the Donetsk People’s Republic?

Z: We originally understood that our main and common struggle – a struggle for the minds of our children. Textbooks on the history of Donbass already exist. We are aware that distribute them in Kharkiv by the retail network unreal, through checkpoints to carry dangerous to life and health, and for the purchase of such books in Ukraine can pay personal freedom. But we will try to do everything possible to ensure that the residents of Kharkiv region and other regions of Ukraine had the opportunity to get acquainted with them, including through the Internet. ”
11:55

That DNR may offer the residents of other regions, which benefits would be different from the present-day Ukraine (social standards, media freedom, the absence of dictatorship, human rights, economic and tax advantages, the lack of influence of the oligarchs, for example)? Please reply without slogans and “ukrofashistov”.

Let no slogans. Directly on your list. There are things that are in the stage of formation and discussion – for example, the tax system, so to talk about it sooner. Anyway, we have a tax system is not worse, and we do not charge to pensioners in the war tax.

As for the dictatorship, then we do not have it, although it could be in wartime. We held elections, and, in contrast to Ukraine, while they did not kill the activists, not beaten to death, and the candidates were not engaged in manipulation. And while the turnout was not in the example above, than in Ukraine during the presidential and parliamentary elections.

Human rights are a priority for us. Above all, the main thing right – to life. And this is exactly the right man, which is not observed Ukraine. Including here in the Donbass. Of course, many of the human rights we are limited, but not by us, and Ukraine. And let’s not forget that we are forbidden misanthropic ideology and historical figures, such as Bandera or Nazism.

Social standards? In this question there are two sides. First – this state of cash with social standards. And here we are not very good things. But the reason is not in our unwillingness to address these issues, and that made the Donbas Ukraine. The economic blockade, refusal of social benefits (pensions, benefits, etc.), blocking of the banking system and more. However, here it must be said about the other side – the vector of development. That is, here we are on what tasks we set for ourselves? The main task – the well-being of our residents. And that is why we, unlike Ukraine, utility rates frozen at pre-war levels. That is why we invest every penny earned in that market-based instruments to hold back the prices of basic products. In fact, many foods we are cheaper than in Ukraine, despite the economic blockade and military action.

And, finally, about the oligarchs. De oligarchization economics and politics, along with the fight against corruption are key pillars of our policy. And we in the Republic of complete consensus on this issue.

You can go on and on, but it may be another answer.

General principles of social policy, de oligarchization, the fight against corruption, de banderizatsiya ban ultra-nationalist parties, free elections, sovereignization policy, that is, the rejection of external control and relying on their own strength. All of this could be the principles of policy in most regions of Ukraine.

11:50

Alexander, how to deal with the information blockade DNR and LC? How to counteract the lies that accompany punitive operation and, as a consequence, the prosecution of all mortal sins militia Republic and Russia? Ukrainian media brainwashing the population reached its climax.

Z: Fight the information blockade and making fools of population in Kharkov is necessary by all means and at all levels. Chief among them – the family. We must save children from the information of the virus, which spreads from Kiev Bandera authority on American techniques (in a good way, methods – we also do not sin he borrowed them).

Another level, which is not controlled by the illegal authorities of Kiev – the Internet. It is necessary to create a community through which to disseminate truthful information. Given the level of political terror in Kharkov, the community need should be anonymous. The main thing – the level of confidence in these communities and the truth.

In general, it is true – the most efficient and cost effective weapons in the information war. And we must not forget about the books and films, which must be distributed on a “hands.” It’s not just about preserving the Russian language, but also about those ideals that spread Russian art. This is also a weapon in that information war waged with us Kiev illegal government.

11:48

Do you plan to economic cooperation in our region? The exchange of experience and personnel after the victory?

Z: Be sure! Our large region that was once called the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog republic, has always been strong cooperation. Scientific and industrial potential of Kharkov, which is now destroyed by the Kiev authorities, multiplied by the potential of Donbass – can bring a breakthrough effect and secure the future for us, our children and grandchildren.

Important in the future – to enter the neutral status of the region, and have economic cooperation with Russia and with the EU. And perhaps it will only be if we are going to decide their own destiny and lead sovereign politics.

11:45

Kharkiv remember and will never forget the Nazi marches through the streets of the city. Remember how forced kissing a swastika on his hands and beaten for refusing. Our children are not able to live a “ridge”. Therefore, many were imprisoned. They were tortured, brutally beaten, many were missing. I beg you to help in the exchange of prisoners of Kharkiv! We will never forgive those who brought to our land death, tears, war! We will never forget those who tortured and killed our children!

Z: We also do not forget the crimes committed by the Bandera power in Kharkov, Odessa and other cities of the South-East. Yes, and in other regions of Ukraine, too. And we must not forget. But that’s not it. We must create the conditions to overcome this terrible spiritual crisis of the Ukrainian people.

As for the political prisoners of Kharkiv, we regularly try to include them in the list on the exchange, but the people of Kiev as regularly exclude them from the list or even disrupt the process of exchange. But we will not abandon these efforts.

11:43

I live in Kiev, and I want to just say thank you for what you do! You are a brave man, you are to defend their rights, and we have every day is becoming very sad! I understand that the people of Kiev all very angry, we had not let these monsters on the Maidan, but believe that there are many people who are against Europe, against which this power. I am very hurt by the fact that in the Donbas killed so many people, I do not mean “atoshnikov” them to forcibly driven shoot. I want to say: forgive us for our inaction, but … is not forgiven … And yet, thanks to you!

Z: Thank you. To hear such words from Kiev is especially important for us not to lose faith completely in Ukraine and the Ukrainian people.

11:38

For what ideals you fight? What is the “Russian world”?

Z: From the beginning of our struggle were slogans that inspired everyone, without distinction of nationality, religion or political views. This freedom, justice, equality and the desire to live according to conscience. “Russian world” – it is intangible, spiritual space in which every individual and every nation can realize themselves and – most importantly – stay himself. “Russian world” does not equate one size fits all. “Russian world” in favor of a colorful variety of anti-dull grayness of Western pseudo-democratic standard.

This, incidentally, applies to Ukraine. The slogan “For a United Ukraine” is a substitution of concepts. You are trying to convince that we are talking about a “unified” Ukraine as an “equal” Ukraine. And this is a lie, and a lie harmful. Ukraine – is different, and this is its potential resource. But politicians in 25 years turned into a resource problem, and now in the cause of war. It seems to me that you have to refute this lie on the same Ukraine and recognizing its diversity, start putting the country again with other regions, recognizing the right

11:35

How to relate to the residents of the DNI-controlled territory Kiev, who do not participate in the “TAU” and doing everything possible to avoid involvement in the civil war?

Z: Well relate. We understand that – albeit to varying degrees – but we all have suffered and continue to suffer from anti-people and anti-human policy of the Kiev regime.

If our neighbors manage to avoid involvement in the conflict on the side of the aggressors of Kiev, we will only welcome it.

I have said many times that those who are on the “wrong side” demarcation line, it is better to withdraw from the conflict. You can go to Russia, it is possible to us. The main thing – not the front. We do not want to fight with those who by force or by means of blackmail drove under appeal.

But if not managed to “hang” and got to the front – give up. Peresidit us captive in a quite decent manner, and then, when the conflict is over, safe and sound will return home. ”

11:33

Hello! As far as we (on a 5-point scale) in Kyiv cheating issue of DNR and LNR?

Z: On the 5 plus. The only thing that Kiev can not misquote, so it is the very existence of our Republic. But everything else – or an outright lie or veiled.

In this regard, I can advise only one thing: look for primary sources, that is, look on the Internet, our local materials of our lives. This is our TV channels, and our sites. ”

11:30

What made you take up arms and confront the current Ukrainian authorities? You are fighting not with them, and with ordinary people, most of whom simply mobilized.

Z: We are at war with those who came to us with arms, to deprive us of the right to decide their own destiny. And who is on the other side of the front line – the ideological or punitive terbatalonov of recruits, we do not know. Usually we learn about who they are, after we take them prisoner.

Therefore, ordinary people, we have said many times: run from mobilization. In Russia, you can run, can the West. Just do not go to the front as there is no one will understand. Well, if you are not lucky and got to the front, then give up. Peresidit war in decent conditions of our captivity, and then go home, safe and sound.

11:29

Dear Alexander Vladimirovich, how do you feel about the fact that in 2014 the Russian government has recognized the Ukrainian election as legitimate and thus trampled faith in the fairness of the Russian people. Weight fighters against Nazi scum hopes for support. Only with forks on the tank, no one will throw.

Z: Russia nor in 2014 or this year, did not recognize the legitimacy of the regime in Kiev. Always call and came to power in a coup at the highest level of the regime in Moscow. And Russia’s opinion has not changed!

We also, like Russia, recognize the de facto power in Ukraine, that is, the power that illegally usurped the right to take decisions on behalf of the state.

With a fork on a tank rush, do not, of course, but it might be worth to make the tanks did not go beyond the plant, or at least the city.
11:28

Question: Good day, Alexander. Tell me, why the press conference for the residents of Kharkiv region? Indeed, for obvious reasons, you are, unfortunately, not how it can not help us … And ask, and to ask for help is useless, and it is – one of the most interesting questions of Kharkiv.

Answer: Kharkov – Donbas region closest in spirit. And in many respects close to me personally. Here, the public organization “Hold” was formed, which is winter in 2013-2014 almost the only tried to express their indignation at the events in Kiev. And that, along with Stronghold I began my struggle. I’m sure Kharkiv – against fascism, against the lawlessness that reigns today in Ukraine. Today Kharkiv after a period of political terror as it went into the shadows, in the underground, but it sure is not defeated until the end. So I decided to answer the questions of Kharkiv, which reached me from you through my website and social networks, as well as through representatives of Kharkiv friendly association in Donetsk. I am sure that you are still able to stand up to fight and to repeat the feat of your ancestors, once destroyed fascism in his lair. Kharkov need to start to get up from its knees, it should have been done two years ago. Once you realize that without fighting the junta will not reset and start to act decisively, then it will help the people of the DNI. How to deal with the Nazis we know. But you have to do to fight for their future and that of their children.

 

Zakharchenko: Ukraine Hangs Between Dictatorship and Counterrevolution

By Alexander Zakharchenko

Zakharchenko Official Website
Edited autotranslation by Quemado Institute
February 21, 2016

Alexander Zakharchenko

Alexander Zakharchenko

The anniversary of the coup in Kiev was marked by new riots, and promises another Maidan.

First you need to remember that these events are taking place against the backdrop of a deep political crisis, the degradation of the economy and monstrous decline in living standards of Ukrainian citizens. Why is this happening? Because as a result of the coup and the violent overthrow of the legitimate authorities, whcih in Kiev is called “revolution”, processes of destruction were launched that no one can stop. It happens to all revolutions. They all ran to the people and the state of self-destruction process [sic]. That is why we are against any revolutions, according to their version. And the Russian and Ukrainian peoples have exhausted the limit on revolutions.

Where is the exit? Historically, there have been only two. Either the victory of the counter-revolution, or the victory of the revolutionary dictatorship, which then, painfully, through blood and sweat, the people return to public life. Here we are just at the limit of the second option and the Russian and Ukrainian people are exhausted. Many intelligent people in Russia and Ukraine said and say that the people and the state will not survive another revolution. Here we see the result in Ukraine. The process of self-destruction is happening on the Maidan, and Ukraine will not survive.

About dictatorship in Kiev, I do not believe it, because, firstly, there are no candidates for the role of dictator. Well, certainly not Poroshenko! And secondly, the people will not accept dictatorship, if there were another coup and the henchmen of Bandera and neo-Nazis come to power.

So I do not have any optimism about the development of the situation in Ukraine. And I have is no cause for joy. Because Ukrainians are a sorry, sorry people. On this I will have to remind you that we did not fight, and do not fight, with the Ukrainian people. We are fighting against Bandera and their accomplices, who have usurped power in Kiev.

Is a counter-revolution possible? Of course. But it depends on whether the Ukrainian people gather together to overthrow entrenched usurpers in Kiev, and whether there are leaders who will bring the Ukrainian people to a return to common sense, traditional moral values and economic revival. That is, leaders who will not make the Ukrainians become someone else—the Europeans, for example— once again become themselves, with their real history, real culture, and real heroes.

So I was quite surprised by the pogroms in Kiev. It is clear that now, after the authorities, who were initially illegitimate from the point of view of the law, have lost the moral legitimacy, and the Maidan flywheel [tr?] will go the next round and eventually destroy Ukraine, or the Ukrainian people will stop it and return to normal life. We in Donbass have already made our choice and are ready to render assistance to the Ukrainian people, if they will gather to stop the Maidan flywheel and return to normal life.

–February 21, 2016, Donetsk.

Source: av-zakharchenko.su/ru/news/aleksandr-zaharchenko-ukraina-nahoditsya-mezhdu-diktaturoy-i-kontrrevolyuciey

Editor’s note: please excuse possible errors in translation.

Christmas Prayer for Donbass

Christ Jesus We Send This Christmas Prayer
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Finally from me, my Christmas greeting to all of you. All who have lent their precious time to fighting for freedom against Kiev’s thugs. The lying junta of Ukraine are firing random mortar shells into communities consisting primarily of elderly. Ukrainian forces drunk, out of control. In my view it’s imperative we support Russia in her determination to make the USA & EU back down from their aggression. Who knows what 2016 will bring? We must keep up the pressure on the USA @NATO & @EU to halt their aggression against #Russia. And the complicit & compliant prostitutes @Amnesty @HRW & @OSCE who pretend to be unbiased but are in fact agents of the #US @StateDept. Kiev MUST be defeated. It’s crimes against humanity MUST be exposed. It’s drunken thug army MUST be made to leave the #Donbass. The relatives of all those who @Poroshenko’s scum army murdered MUST have their chance to spit in the killers’ faces. @Guardian @BBC @CNN. We MUST see an end to #Ukraine’s specious lies, propaganda and slanderous remarks about a #Russia that has shown integrity throughout. Kiev MUST be defeated. It’s crimes against humanity MUST be exposed. It’s drunken thug army MUST be made to leave the #Donbass. The people of #Donetsk, #Lugansk & elsewhere in the #Donbass MUST be left in peace to love #Russia as they have always done.
By @Novorossiyan on Twitter
December 24, 2015

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DPR Rebuilds Destroyed Homes in Debaltsevo

Handing Keys to First Houses, Rebuilt and Restored
After Bombing by UAF

Alexander Zakharchenko official website
Autotranslation (with minor editing by Quemado Institute)
December 18, 2015

Alexander Zakharchenko with residents

Alexander Zakharchenko with residents

On December 17, the Head of the People’s Republic of Donetsk Alexander Zakharchenko handed the keys and documents of the first houses built in the framework of the reconstruction program after shelling by the APU [UAF – Ukrainian Armed Forces].

The first in a new home and moved in are residents from Debalcevo and Uglegorsk. During the presentation of the keys, the Head of State noted that in Donetsk People’s Republic will be re-built and restored everything destroyed by punitive [battalions].

The first phase of the rehabilitation program involves the construction of 111 housing new “turnkey” houses in Debaltsevo, featuring Uglegorsk, miner, Zugres. Currently, 100% ready are 30 houses. The stage of readiness of the rest is 99%. These objects are the final cosmetic work. In addition, the new housing installed plumbing, heating system, radiators, windows, entrance and interior doors. Footage of buildings is determined by the number of residents registered in the destroyed houses.

Fully complete construction is planned for the end of the year. After visiting the new home and communicating with Alexander Zakharchenko Novoselov made a number of organizational lessons. In general, the Head of the Republic appreciated the quality of houses built and the work done on 4+.

slavdec18y“It’s good that the house built in the period of two and a half months. Well, that was able to build a home at all, no matter what. But I’m pretty picky critic, so my rating: 4+. With builders, we will discuss it separately. But this phase of recovery has shown us what we can do, pointed to errors and omissions, which we try to avoid in the future,” said Alexander Zakharchenko.

Residents of new homes are happy. They recall with horror the days of shelling by the APU [UAF], the days of the occupation. Debalcevo resident Olga Shvedchenko says that on the day when a shell hit their house, they were lucky – if you can call it luck – no one was home, so they stayed alive.

“The house was burning for two days, it was impossible to enter. I thought I was to remain homeless, but thanks to Alexander – we have not given up. The house is built in such a short time. At the same time did everything for free. Many thanks. Yes, soon it will be difficult, because with the housing had been destroyed and all our belongings. But we can live with – most importantly, that there is no war,” said Olga Shvedchenko.

slavdec18xDebalcevo Uglegorsk and more than any other city of Donetsk People’s Republic suffered during the fighting. Uglegorsk was destroyed by 90%, Debalcevo – 80%.

As the mayor of Uglegorsk Oleg Neledva [said] today residents are beginning to return to his hometown. If immediately after the release of the Ukrainian Uglegorsk occupiers its population was about 4 thousand people, today this figure has almost doubled – 7500 residents. In the spring of 2016 in the Donetsk People’s Republic will continue the construction of housing destroyed by shelling the APU, the next stage will be built 450 houses of the private sector.

Pavel Dremov: Anna Dolgareva of Russkaya Vesna Interviews the LPR Commander

On Heroism: A Dialogue
Posted in Memory of Pavel Dremov

Autotranslation (formatted by Quemado Institute)
Russkaya Vesna
September 28, 2015
Posted December 14, 2015

Pavel Dremov, March 8, 2015

Pavel Dremov, March 8, 2015

Dremov: Heroism – is such a word, you know, streamlined. Even heroism of civilians: those in Pervomaisk not escaped, did not leave, but remained under all bombing – it is also heroism. Just go to work, to bake bread for the people, when you shoot – the same heroism. Heroism – we have a fighter Sasha ‘Round “had” on the side “of the family lives … lived. This year, in February, first shot his father, then his mother. They shot just at the Lisichansk checkpoint, dragged out of the car and shot because blood relatives here. He continues to serve – it is also heroism.

Heroism – when people are standing with machine guns and tanks against them. When one party performs Minsk agreement removes heavy weapons and tanks sees in front of himself. But continues to serve, knowing that all their heavy weapons will not work earlier than two hours, and strong opponents fit in fifteen minutes. Still, all are at their posts. This is also heroism. In fact, heroism – it is to be a person in a difficult situation. If you do not win it’s all here: meanness, fear, envy and all the rest, you’ll be a hero unique. Heroes – they are ordinary people from ordinary people completely – they are not there some outstanding. Here there are heroes who simply give themselves fully service work. Even a mother who raises five children, – a hero. Heroism – the concept is very streamlined, very large. And we have a land of heroes. We have those, thank God, very much.

Question: I’ve been watching that now at the forefront of the LC mainly Cossacks, huh?

Dremov: Well, it happened. Yes.

Question: But why did this happen?

Dremov: Well, part of the Cossacks entered the so-called BTRO – a territorial defense battalions. Some, like our regiment, for example, have become part of the People’s Militia LC. And so it has turned out that the Cossacks now really are everywhere at our best, not because they are any otchayduhi not value their life in any case. Just their main task has been for centuries – to protect the homeland, defend the country and to keep their land. And to date. That’s when we Cossack regiment went to the police LC, we are partly preserved their customs, their own rules, but we do all the orders of the housing. Also we are on the front line, to perform tasks and participate in all exercises, and so on. D. Well, the Cossacks – they have been, are and will be.

Question: And what is now the hottest sectors of the front, where the Cossacks are we?

Dremov: Well, here you see the bold, again, Misha “Chechen” BTRO. They are under the Cossack village of Lugansk. It is for Luhansk. Bold – it is near Trehizbenki. Here, close it – gold, Trinity. Just recently, in spite of a full ceasefire, fired and Day, and the Diamond, this suburb Stakhanov, and by the Cossacks, who are at eighteenth BTRO at BTRO Bryanka, all of them were being fired not only from the mortars, but and heavy weapons. The most paradoxical: Minsk agreement, that’s all nice. And there are such attacks that have mortar nobody believes heavy weapons. Mortar 120 mm, I mean. Shoot and with 152 mm. You know, for the glory of the Cossacks did not do it, they do their job, to protect the homeland.

Not for the glory of it all done something for someone else. That, perhaps, the children go to school on September 1, so that later, probably the same Cossacks could live in peace, take the children to school, go to work quietly. In order to do this, not in order to become famous. To just lived quietly at home, that’s all.

Question: How often clashes, here, for example, Stakhanov – Pervomaisk?

Dremov: Well, actually ezhenochno. We like the OSCE Mission to bed, so the fun begins. They occur in different places. The area of responsibility of the regiment big enough. The shelling could be from gold and from Popasnaya and from the Trinity. Quite often carried out acts of provocation: drives up their heavy equipment – BMP2, not so heavy, thirty, kopeck piece, shell position and go. We sometimes can not even fire back for one simple reason: there is an agreement, an agreement, there is an order in the end. Quite often, the enemy starts firing, using this. And on certain days the enemy had information that we were given orders not to respond. They fired at us with impunity and left.

Question: And for what purpose do they do it? For what purpose is being a constant fire on cities, on the Cossacks on civilians?

Dremov: Well, first of all, it is the spirit of demoralization understand … do not like any soldier, when you shoot, and you can not answer. This is to undermine from within the army first. According to the population on mirnomu- displease. They say that because of you we are constantly on fire. In fact, all perfectly see that no one is going to perform in Minsk agreement, at least the Ukrainian side – that’s for sure. About any withdrawal of troops can be no question, they, on the contrary, here the troops pulled. Poroshenko not hesitate to say on television that he was grateful to the truce, he had to re-equip the army, to repair and build new shelves. And I assure you that the public looks at it and smiles. There was a case in October last year with the OSCE mission in Frunze. We lie to them under fire Ukrainians. And representatives of the OSCE, Petrak from Bulgaria, calling the focal point: “Why did you shoot?”. Those saying they do not shoot. Yes, I say I’m lying, you will shoot me. On 10 minutes the shelling, he called back and asked, “You left?”. He is standing next to me, said: “Yes!”. Immediately after his “yes” starts pounding again. I ask him: why are you in the reports do not specify it? He says that all states in reports. But what gives our head of the OSCE mission, he says, our records very nearly the same. Here it would like to draw attention. Wrong is everything.

Question: What do you think, what is it all going? That is the result: a strange alignment of a strange war, where one party performs the Minsk Agreement, and the second – no. What is this? Besides that the Donbass again become part of Ukraine, or, on the contrary, full-scale war, or to the Transnistria scenario?

Dremov: I do not want to Transnistria scenario as, in principle, and do not want to, and full-scale war, but back in Ukraine, we do not have roads. There is a number of reasons. Let’s not there by the LC, the DNI, and the prying eyes look at Ukraine. The fact that it is happening now. They built the Nazi state. A little distracted. Churchill once said that in the future the most zealous Nazis will be called anti-fascists. And so it came to Kiev. They argue that Putin and Russia are building here on the basis of Hitler’s armies, and so on. D., And so on. N. In this case, the battalion “Azov” has swastikas on their sleeves, while the right sector is recognized worldwide Nazi organization, and so on. What kind of democracy can we say if, because people wore a T-shirt in Kharkov (the news recently) with the inscription “USSR”, he was beaten and torn T-shirt. For that reason he is not dressed like that? This is only the first steps, then they kill those who will not speak, do not think so. Already in full hunt for dissidents.

And waiting for us … well, probably … I’d love to have waited for the world to ukrofashisty comrades retreated to the border, gone from us, and doing it themselves, and we are engaged in their area to themselves. But if war breaks out, we are ready to respond adequately. And most likely it will have another pot once. Imagine, they have superiority in technology, superior in others, but no matter what they have started, in the end it all ends boilers, and they sit in the boilers. They even have a joke. They say on the Maidan two veterans met, and one asks the other, “You are the caldron in which he served?”. So they all will serve and boilers.

Question: You somehow interact with the civilian population? What is the reaction of the peace?

Dremov: Various. In most cases, people understand us, support. It was easier to give steel a pension, social payments, we are trying to help people. But still there are people out there … that’s what we are positively different from the Ukrainian government, we are not persecuted for his views. There are people who believe in Ukraine. Please believe me, just do not harm, do not do anything, and believe … please, it’s your right. We need to give people a bit of freedom, that’s their business. There are people who honestly believe us.

Question: I just saw a lot of people who are afraid that the militia will depart, depart from Day, go away from our border zones …

Dremov: I’ll tell you a story. Well, clearly, we are acting Regiment. He was tasked to conduct exercises. The second battalion was withdrawn Pervomaisk and goes to the landfill work battalion tactical exercises. That same evening, I come here, and here the demonstration in Pervomaisk. Like, how can you leave us? Are you leaving? No, I say, we go to the exercises. We will come. Civilians did not give us leave, said: “Stay here and protect the city.” We were forced to agree. And the battalion traveled to parts of the doctrine. People have seen all of them together with us have gone through all of this, and we are with them. Grief and joy – all together.

We hid them under the bombardments, transported and bread and water, and they helped us a lot, simple people, very much. One sat on the headquarters, there is a small room staff called one at all. December 2014. And there comes a grandmother, her 80 years probably. Only then we gave the first payment. And it brings a half liter of milk, bread and flour buns. I said to her, “Grandma, yes, it is not necessary, we have everything.” She replies: “My grandmother suffered greater grandmother is now rich, you need to eat.” That’s what I remember. People are willing to give the last, you know, just to come here is not a war, but we were able to protect them.

Interviewed correspondent “Russian Spring” in LPR (LC) by Anna Dolgareva

In Memory of Pavel Dremov
Assassinated December 12, 2015
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“We Mourn”

Epic: On the Memory of Pavel Dremov

Last Nugget of Donbass
Guest Article by Eugene Krutikov

Autotranslation (with minor editing by Quemado Institute)
VZGlyad
December 13, 2015

Pavel Dremov

Pavel Dremov, Novorossiya Field Commander

From the governments of Donetsk and Lugansk are already almost gone the pioneers – romantics who fight against oligarchs, the nuggets from the local provincial intelligentsia and small businesses. They were killed in battle or through ambushes and bombs.

On the route from Stakhanov to Pervomaisk was blown up a car, which drove Pavel “Dad” Dremov,, commander of the 6th Cossack Brigade of the 2nd Army Corps of the DNLR, that is part of Lugansk. In Lugansk. Pavell was the last of the local “nuggets” that participated in the War of Independence of Novorossiya on the first day. And until his last days, he remained one of the most outstanding representatives of the romantic, sincere direction of the war, those who were not so dear life as it is the very idea.

His car exploded when he was driving to his home Stakhanov (Kadievka) to continue celebrating his own wedding. He married a Russian journalist from St. Petersburg – it’s a common fad in war zones, there are very quick to find a life partner from military journalists, but the main celebrations were in St. Petersburg, and in his native Stakhanov assumed a solemn wedding and then a banquet in Pervomaisk. This route it was not a secret for anyone. Half of the LPR knew exactly how to follow Dremov and what machine he was riding in. And where it will stop, so that you can put a bomb in it.

Dremov was local. This is particularly important for an understanding of what was happening. The distance between the Stakhanov and Pervomaisky tiny. It’s almost a village. And Dremov was one of the first who got up there at the head of the then almost of evolving self-defense units. And he and the deceased Mozgovoy had tried to keep the largest industrial agglomeration to the north – Lisichansk – Severodonetsk. Now there is no need to disassemble, why and in what specific situation Dremov and Mozgovoy left the area and retreated to the south – to their Stakhanov, Pervomaisk and Alchevsk.

After the formation of the regular army of the disparate groups in Luhansk Dremov relatively calm perceived subordination and recognized the authority of Plotnitsky while his long time were almost as the sole dictator of several settlements, and Mozgovoy has been under mysterious circumstances killed, which is quite easy to write off the Ukrainian subversive group. Previously, they had killed the poor (Batman) and Ishchenko, as local nuggets do not fit into the general scheme of the regional administration.

For a long time Dremov has been considered almost the last of the “old” Luhansk commanders who took an independent political position. This is not quite true. No independent political position he had not. Dremov did not play politics in the form, as they understand the curators. He simply did not know how. As Mozgovoy – a poet, a provincial intellectual, who had put on camouflage suddenly, as often happens in such situations in different countries and even in different parts of the former Soviet Union.

The problem of local nuggets, and them we began to talk almost immediately after the war, it was in their complete denial of some obscure political intrigues them. Dremov and Mozgovoy were idealists and romantics to the extent that, in principle, did not understand what the game is about them and their military units. And their employees – local guys with guns – believed in them, as in the gods, not because they were pursuing any specific policy goals or rushed to the ephemeral power, but only because they were local and could lead the boys out industrial and mining towns, to get them to give them a meaning and purpose for which it is possible and necessary to fight and die.

They really thought that protect their homeland, their families, language and nation specific communities, not only from the fascists and nationalists, but also from the oligarchs different activity and importance. And if Mozgovoy really was a poet, “leftists”, communist in the best sense of the word, Dremov – rather just a local hero, “boyfriend”, with specific notions of good and evil, socialist equality, Cossack superiority and, thus, a complete lack of skills Hardware struggle.

He was quickly pushed to the margins of political life, and he replied became convict coal trade, not realizing that it is also an element of the war. He and his polutysyachny squad, the former “garrison Lysychansk” joined in the second Army Corps DPR/LPR, but a degree of independence he still persisted. And if charismatic boys from Donetsk, Moscow and the Caucasus, the commanders “Sparta”, “Somalia”, “Fifteen”, “Spaniard” and other somehow still joined in the general mainstream, then Dremov and Mozgovoy could not. For them there after relative stabilization of the front line and began the construction of a new state was unacceptable. They claimed the political presence in these processes, and when these processes become manageable unknown to them people, their opinion was, by definition unnecessary.

And you thought it would be simple? What were all born to fulfill its historic mission? Maybe so, but too many sincere people have given their lives for their ideals after these ideals were “reformatted” by people more understandable to those who took the responsibility to determine the internal policy DPR/LPR.

To impose Dremov also quite a lot of complaints, accusing including a protection racket in the same coal, and he began to write in response to a public video message, exposing a number of Cossacks in front of the camera. At some point, we have already talked about the fact that Dremov away from sin will leave the Donbass. What it is quite strange to the local natural, who is forced to leave the Donbass, and then return back when the situation becomes unpleasant and again almost critical.
Dremov belonged to the category of local, who could control the situation in individual localities, including a fundamentally important for the coal trade. In addition, we are talking about Stakhanov Ferroalloy Plant, and the status of this kind of large enterprises in the Donbass is now extremely doubtful.

Legal their affiliation is not clear, as there is no formal responsibility for its own due to a lack of understanding of the property itself.

Dremov with its very chegevaristskimi outlook on life believed that plants former oligarchs have, by definition, “belong to the people,” and that it is from a legal perspective, it is now no one understands.

Stakhanov Ferroalloy Plant has in fact belonged to him, since his party controlled the city. Where there is any action Kolomoisky – already not interesting. This is normal for this kind of history of civil wars. And so the story of the murder of Dremov it is possible to fit into the overall context of the fight against corruption, which MGB Lugansk announced all the oligarchs consecutive indiscriminately.

The governments of Donetsk and Lugansk already almost gone pioneers – romantics fight against oligarchs, of nuggets from the local provincial intelligentsia and small businesses. They were killed in battle or so here – in ambushes and bombs in cars. The first generation of nuggets eroding. That process of “nationalization”, which in the Caucasus held a dozen years in the Donbass passed a couple of months, and several lives of talented and honest people.

Dremov did not live up to 40 years. But this is the case when a person will be remembered not by the day but by deeds.

 

Viktor Yanukovich: Yes, I want to return to politics – Interview

Zakhar Vinogradov of Rio Novosti interviews
Ukraine President-in-Exile

Novorossia.su
Autotranslation (with minor editing by Quemado Institute)
December 10, 2015

Viktor Yanukovych (--en.kremlin.ru)

Viktor Yanukovych (–en.kremlin.ru)

Former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych gave an interview to RIA Novosti on how he assesses the actions of the Ukrainian government and the opposition, on the situation in Ukraine and its future plans.

ZV: Viktor Yanukovych, the last time we spoke with you in 2012. In Ukraine, for the past three years, many things have happened. I wonder what do you personally think about this?

VY: In 2012, when we met, Ukraine was successful state. It was the year of the Euro 2012 European Football Championship, we successfully carried out. We were building big plans then on the development of the country. We were thinking how to raise pensions, salaries, scholarships for students. While we have considered issues of development of Ukraine. We began to changes in the economy, social life. It was true.

What happened after that, in 2013 and 2014, it cannot be called otherwise than tragedy. It  was human suffering, pain, thousands of deaths. There was a tragedy that led to the division of the state, the loss of independence and, of course, the terrible grief of people. It was impossible to speak without pain in the heart. One gets the impression that the authorities of Ukraine, announcing the return of Donbass and Ukrainian calling it, are talking about territory, and not about the people living there.

By counting the military casualties, no one wants to notice that there are not only people killed by shells, but also from hunger. This is especially true of older people who were left without the current government pensions and benefits, and doomed to die. People can not receive proper medical care, medication is not enough. All this is arranged by the consequences of the blockade of Donbass Kiev authorities.

If they believe the residents of Donbass are Ukrainian citizens, what citizens are different from those of people in other regions? Why is the power of Ukrainians consider “special” and tries to put them on trial “will survive – will not survive.” People who have worked hard all my life, do not deserve such attitude.

The worst thing that happens all this on the eve of the arrival of cold weather. On the eve of the winter is necessary to make every effort to ensure the people’s warmth and everything necessary to avoid a humanitarian disaster! Most importantly there is an urgent need to repeal this “deadly” blockade, or Donbass expect a humanitarian catastrophe.

ZV: What do you think will happen to the Minsk Agreement? What are the prospects of their implementation?

VY: Firstly, I believe that today there is no alternative to the Minsk Agreement. The fact that these agreements should go into 2016 – there is also no doubt about it. Today there it is, the sixteenth year on the doorstep. And while not seen such great progress. Yes, there is a process, but [it takes place] very, very slowly. Very difficult. I think that as long as there is this rhetoric of “separatists”, “terrorists”, until after this humiliation of people, yet will not leave this division of people into “us-them”, in the class who has what kind of … It It will be very difficult for all.

ZV: What would you have done in a similar situation?

VY: I would not have allowed it. Remember in February 2014 there was the seizure of the state bodies in the Western Ukraine. I did not use force and the army against the inhabitants of the Western Ukraine, because they are also citizens of Ukraine. Their life I was supposed to protect. I sat down to negotiate with the opposition and on 21 February signed an agreement that would also endorse the Europeans. Failure to comply with this Agreement and the subsequent tragic events are fully on the conscience of the leaders of the then opposition and European countries, which has endorsed the Agreement.

To solve the current tragedy in Donbass, you need to turn to history. View examples out of similar crises in the past. I know that the subject, for example, federalism – it irritates the current government today in Ukraine has become synonymous with separatism and terrorism. Why not ask for the same United States, Germany, Switzerland to share their experiences of federalization? In any case, you need to start this dialogue, and when the situation is ripe, then go on this way. Anyway, the question of the federation, it will hang. Yes, this question is not today. Here, I agree. But that Ukraine was tomorrow, today we have to look for something that will unite the whole Ukraine.

ZV: How do you assess the current situation in Ukraine?

VY: Today, write off, as they say, the war has nothing. Today, the fog has cleared. And tomorrow it will need people who are said to serve bread, circuses have ate here so everything! The oligarchs have ‘namaydanilis. ” All life requires a completely different approach, which, incidentally, has not yet spoken. We do not see development plans in Ukraine.

ZV: As far as I remember, on the stage Maidan opposition leaders, who later became government, voiced certain plans and steps of development of Ukraine …

VY: Let’s look at what promises so generously handed out on the Maidan were met.

They demanded democracy and freedom of speech. And I ask myself a question – and that there was little freedom of speech under my presidency for the opposition? Every day, on all channels, they get as much air as they wanted. And the government does not interfere with this.

On the Independence demanded to deal with the oligarchs – is now in the hands of oligarchs even more power. At their disposal today own army and “manual” faction in parliament.

I have already spoken about freedom of speech, but I want to say once again – journalists who express opposition point of view, threatened with criminal cases, they are beaten, kept in prison, just shoot.

Journalist Ruslan Kotsaba for his statements against the mobilization for almost a year behind bars without trial! And none of the journalists and foreign fighters for the freedom of speech does not pay any attention to it. Oles Buzin cynically, in broad daylight, was shot near his home, and the suspects in his murder try to present perhaps the heroes!

People demanded to improve their well-being – as a result, Ukrainians have become three times poorer. And it was done very simply – the devaluation of the hryvnia. The Ukrainian people have become poor in three. And the oligarchs who kept their savings in dollars abroad, respectively, became three times richer. And now for a song going to buy up all of Ukraine.

After the Maidan never raise pensions and wages. How many Ukrainians with an average salary of $ 150 can not afford to go to Europe?

And the government continues to feed the people with tales of visa-free regime. They promised him enter just a few months after the coup. But this remained a promise. And I remind you that the Association Agreement with the EU, the signing of which was delayed by us in 2013 in Vilnius, had nothing to do with the visa-free regime. But all the people through the media presented differently and brought under these slogans on the Maidan.

ZV: Do you think people in Ukraine have already realized that they were deceived on the Maidan?

VY: Unfortunately, the expectations of the people on Maidan just used for personal gain. All TV channels were in the hands of oligarchs and distort what is happening on the Maidan. People are misinformed. The authorities were in dark colors, and the actions of the opposition extremely bright.

But now, the recriminations yesterday’s colleagues on the Maidan has finally made it possible for people to hear the truth more often. Even the US ambassador Payette had no time to extinguish the numerous conflicts in the Ukrainian government. The coalition openly accuses the government in its incompetence, corruption. The Prime Minister and President of lobbying the interests close to him oligarchic clans, who stood behind them since the days of the Maidan.

ZV: Can you name the names of those oligarchs who stood for the opposition, and in fact organized the Maidan?

VY: You know, I’m very cautious about this or that person to cling to someone labels. But they themselves say about it. For example, in the Austrian court Firtash said that he supported Klitschko. Kolomoisky – I know whom to support, and he also spoke about this, and so on. Today, every member of the government are the oligarchs, who can say, “pushed” to the government of his people. And it’s no secret to anyone in Ukraine.

ZV: Interestingly, while the oligarchs, what was the use of what happened on the Maidan? After all, they had already been wealthy …

VY: Well, at that time, when, as they say, “the nuts twisted quietly,” and we needed to pay taxes on time, that taxes are fair, of course, did not like the oligarchs.

Suffice it to recall a single law – on transfer payments. When this law was passed, to which he was sent? Naturally, it was a just law. Because the surplus, which was obtained at the time the largest businesses in Ukraine, which is called oligarchs, of course, they were unfair. And this law aims to somehow level the financial situation in the budget at the expense of the poor and by the rich. And we talked about this openly. It was one of the reasons.

And they, of course, needed a president obedient as they thought, which can be controlled. They have achieved this, and today the president was their colleague – one of the oligarchs. But I think that today, many of them realized that they made a mistake.

Because what happened then with the country … In fact, the government was overthrown with the help of the oligarchs, the hands of nationalists, which most talked about independence, democracy and so on.

And what have we got? We got a split in Ukraine, we have today a totalitarian power. In fact, the country now controlled curators appointed from the West. Yes, and a number of ministers today have come from other countries – not Ukrainians. Do we have your staff is not enough?

This is actually all that is said on the Maidan, almost two years ago, exactly the opposite happened. They said, will fight against the oligarchs – the oligarchs brought to power, say for an independent Ukraine – Ukraine split, put Ukraine on the management of people from other countries.

ZV: But among Ukrainian oligarchs, must have been and your friends, there were those who supported you?

VY: You know, when in power, it is known to all – all my friends are singing sweet songs of devotion and friendship. It’s not a secret. I’m not very fond of, to put it mildly, these “songs”. Quite the contrary. But such a life. In fact, they have always thought and will think only about their own interests. But this time they have miscalculated. As big mistake.

ZV: Still, in your opinion, what was the interest of the oligarchs to undermine the economy of Ukraine? Or they have other interests? Why should they be maintained Maidan?

VY: I was not wrong when I said that a strong government should all put in place. Because appetites are growing. I always jokingly said that someone “forgets about the diet.” I often carry out such work. Often or, I would say, systematically and continuously. Like – not like, as they say, I have no one looked in the mouth. You see ?! But today, when it’s all mixed up like that – they forgot about the Maidan, forget what was said there, you forget about everything like crazy. And it will end badly.

ZV: You say that “strong power should all put in place.” A number of recent detentions, arrests, perhaps, is an attempt to Poroshenko, to “put all in place …”

VY: This is just a performance that played the power to distract from the urgent problems. Law enforcers are chasing small fry, but imitating the fight against corruption. Give the people bread authorities can not – get a sight!

Give me at least one corrupt official, who received real term? It is not to be punished corrupt officials, close to the first persons of the state, it is difficult to believe that being a real fight against corruption. This everyone knows. And ordinary people about this, too, is well aware. Neither of which the fight against corruption and speech can not be. No one in this never believe. It’s all “blurry eyes.”

And how do you show the arrest Korban? Were recruited hundreds of employees of the SBU, dozens of prosecutors, Korban and then released under house arrest safely drink cognac. Today the prosecutor general’s office, controlled by Poroshenko, under the pretext of the fight against corruption is simply inter-clan fighting on the side of the President!

ZV: Returning to the corruption. You probably know that the people who come after you, said the following: that the 15 billion dollars that Ukraine has signed the contract with Russia are “bribe Yanukovych Putin.” What can you say about it?

VY: This is politicking. It’s all well aware, and in Ukraine, and I think all understand. Of course, this money has been directed to the development of Ukraine, of course, at the expense of these loans we solved a lot of questions, and, in particular, we are in the period of time agreed to a significant reduction in gas prices. While the price of gas was over $ 400 (per thousand cubic meters – ed.), And we agreed, I think, 272-275 dollars at the time. Therefore, the current government, including at the expense of these agreements, in 2014 pumped enough gas for a very cheap price at that time. And last winter 2014-2015 year. I do not know how the situation is there now, but in 2015 took place in Ukraine, including due to the fact that there was an opportunity to upload the cheapest gas in storage.

ZV: And here you are reminded of a very interesting point related to 15 billion dollars. Why did you take this credit still from Russia, not from the IMF or some other European financial institutions?

VY: So, I’ll tell you about that … We are .. I do not remember in the 20 days of November, may 23th, 2013 received a final negative response to the IMF.

There is a word “zamanuha” … All the time served cake, saying, “That’s it, we will give, give, give ….”. And we have those expectations lived for several years. But we did not agree on the conditions that were offered to us – to raise tariffs by 50%, raise the price of gas, including for the population. We did not go for it. We are looking for various ways to convince, to work at all levels. Work systematically and seemed on the verge, we agree.

Unfortunately, 23 (approximately) on November, we received a formal rejection of the IMF. We were counting on that money. We were in a very difficult situation when it happened.

Just a few days we had a CIS summit in Belarus in Minsk, and I was involved there, representing Ukraine. I asked this question to Putin: “Our situation is so complicated, I do not know how we should be, and if you have the opportunity at any condition … I would like this issue to be discussed.”

“I do not mind, please (said Putin – Ed.). Ordered the government, I Medvedev instructed the government to let work begin. If these conditions coincide with the two sides, we can resolve this question. ”
That’s all. It was very short, just a five-minute conversation on this subject.

And in December, began the negotiations with the Russian government, in December, I think, somewhere in the first decade. Our ministers, everyone who was involved in the execution of this loan, worked. Government works. In my opinion, in the 20 days of December, it was found a solution which satisfies us that does not drive us here in these commitments, which led to a deterioration in people’s lives, to the difficult situation of tariff, price increases. And I went to Moscow to make the finishing touches. Finishing touches, as always, it was the price of gas.

Hard, very difficult conversation was, as always, they are never simple. Many times I have commented on this. Since 2002, I have dealt with all these issues. Russia had for us was not so easy partner. Because they are very experienced, “toothy”, professional, and we are always prepared very seriously.

We have, you know, there was no familiarity. Russia to defend their interests, and we – his own. So we pulled the rope. And finally somewhere to find solutions. Here and on the price of gas. We agreed with the president (Putin – Ed.). He gathered all the experts, were with me all the ministers, too, and it was the last – the price of gas. And when all this has coincided – we signed an agreement and was determined schedule of financing.

ZV: However, many spoke about your over-dependence on Russia. US President Obama said recently, supposedly you were a puppet of Putin.

VY: Firstly, I’m not sure that it was he talking about me. In his speech talked about the years when he first became president – in those years in Ukraine, President Viktor Yushchenko was …

If, however, to assume that he was talking about me, then … We met with Obama several times, and during our meetings, he never raised questions about my dependence on Russia or issues of corruption in Ukraine. Moreover, we can compare the years of my presidency and now Ukraine. The role played by foreigners in the Ukrainian government then and now.

Who could have imagined at the time, for example, Foreign Minister Lavrov will arrive in the parliament and the Ukrainian parliament will begin to learn what to enact laws like this, for example, makes Nuland? Or, for example, come the Prime Minister and Medvedev will head the meeting of the government in Ukraine as it did Biden? Or, for example, I would have started to appoint ministers in Ukraine Putin, his representatives? You can imagine it was present or not ?! I tried very pragmatic work with all countries. Of course, I paid a lot of attention to our strategic partners. And among the strategic partners were Russia.

ZV: Is it worth it for that, I am referring to the appointment of foreigners to the government, blame the current government? Maybe foreigners as more experienced professionals more effectively manage the economy?

VY: The most objective evaluation of the work in the power of foreigners can only give the Ukrainians themselves. Recent opinion polls in Ukraine showed that the vast majority of people believe that their financial position in comparison with the year 2013 worsened dramatically.

I have already said that after the coup never raise salaries and pensions. Given that the hryvnia exchange rate fell by three times, almost the same prices rose. Today the average Ukrainian salary is 150 dollars, and pension – $ 50. This is the level of African countries. How can people survive getting “African” salaries at “European” prices?

ZV: But the Ukrainian authorities to explain the deterioration of the life of the need to carry out reforms that your government has not carried out …

VY: Of course it’s a lie. We must remember 2010, 2011, 2012 and see how much we spent reforms. So many reforms, but held my Government, since 2010, I am sure, I was not carried out in all the years of independence. We greatly simplify doing business, the licensing system was reorganized very much. We were just in times reduced the number of different resolutions. We have introduced the principle of a single window. I lived with these problems and we have done a lot. There were reforms that we just do not have time to bring to a logical conclusion.

Now all that is said about this last time, portrayed in such black colors. It – politicking.

Whenever you criticize your opponents, look at yourself.

Let them look over what they have done during that time. What kind of reforms do you mean? Cadge international loans, renting, as they say, national interests. Increase utility rates. Declare total privatization, then to buy the assets for a pittance.

Do the ordinary Ukrainians now, due to what the government is going to improve their lives? What are they – Poroshenko, Yatseniuk – want to develop, the Ukrainians were able to start making money and live better? What are they going to build a new Ukraine, in addition to “fence” on the border with Russia? If the government has no clear strategy of development of the economy, reform of the public can be a question ?!

Of course, the reforms that supposedly outlined now in Ukraine, they can hardly be called reform. How can reforms be called the increase in tariffs for energy, which led to a huge increase in public services? How can a pensioner who receives now 1,300 hryvnia, pay utility bills, which cost 1500-1700 hryvnia? And so on. I sometimes read online, I see how people speak out. Today, sociology shows that most people believe that the lives of people in Ukraine has become much worse. Even the famous governor of Odessa – Michael Saakashvili, who said that in order to achieve a standard of living that was under Yanukovych need 15-20 years.

ZV: And yet here I am an example. Most recently, the Government of Ukraine reached an agreement with international lenders on the part of the delay in payment of debts. According to the Ukrainian side, it will give impetus to the development of the economy in the near future.

VY: The Ukrainian government has hastened to present the alleged cancellation of 20% debt to international lenders as a victory. And in fact, this is the same as the gas contract Tymoshenko in 2009. Then, in order to six months to get cheap gas, Tymoshenko led the next 10 years the Ukrainians to buy gas at exorbitant prices.

By the way, her colleague Yatseniuk is now “seen the light” and began to blame himself Tymoshenko in the same – notoriously unprofitable signing the contract for the country.

Although Yatsenyuk already surpassed Yulia Vladimirovna and entered an even more cynical. In exchange for a 5 years grace period on debt and writing off $ 3 billion, it just robs future generations of Ukrainians. It condemns them to give for the debts of most of Ukraine’s GDP. We are talking about additional payments to foreign creditors over twenty years, anywhere from 60 to 150 billion dollars, on the basis of what will be the growth of the Ukrainian economy.

For such restructuring and Yaresko (Minister of Finance of Ukraine – ed.), And Yatsenyuk have to answer before the court more than Tymoshenko for a gas contract.

ZV: Recently published an interview in the “Ukrainian Truth” one, as they are called, mladooligarhov, Grigorishin. He is a longtime partner of Poroshenko, just in the energy sector. There, he said, a mysterious phrase, I still do not understand whether it was a joke, whether it’s true – allegedly in the trunk you Mezhyhiria brought Yatsenyuk. Can you explain it’s true or a joke?

VY: Well, I can not say anything about the trunk. But I have met repeatedly with Yatsenyuk and others.

ZV: During the Maidan?

VY: Yes. And I met with other representatives of the Maidan, and radicals, including, and not only in the presidential administration. Why? Because I was looking for a peaceful solution. I did everything to avoid bloodshed. This is my principle of life. I am deeply convinced that no power is not worth a drop of blood spilled. So I drove all the negotiations and look for ways how to peacefully resolve the conflict.

ZV: How do you assess the relationship between the president and prime minister now? What there is a conflict, what is the problem there?

VY: It is absolutely different people. And the mentality, and capabilities. Poroshenko come already rich, and Yatsenyuk just wants them to be. Therefore, they have a huge conflict of interest.

Poroshenko I know very well, as you might imagine. He came in due time, my Government Minister of Economy. After working for some time. And I know the possibility of this person. We have, in general, at that time, he worked his way to the office, there were practically no differences. It was about the economy. He has sufficient experience was, and then my principle, that should be a dialogue inside the government … Poroshenko – a strong opponent from the economic point of view. He contributed opened and weaknesses we have seen. And this dialogue is very necessary. So today, when he does the opposite, and relates to the intolerance of his opponents, and in fact can not tolerate a dialogue – it is a huge mistake. Huge mistake! And, of course, people who are now in his power … It’s very difficult to work with him.

So I do not want to judge who is right and who is wrong. But the conflict is laid. He may once have to go outside, once they are hiding it, but today we see that the coalition rages.

ZV: You said that Poroshenko abhors dialogue. Why do you think so?

VY: Ukraine has breached the fundamental balance of political forces. Before the coup opposition had sufficient powers to express their point of view. The Verkhovna Rada of them headed the committee, the vice-speaker was a representative of the opposition, they were free to hold rallies and protests.

Can we observe such a day? No. With the help of, so to speak, “a law enforcement rink” and radicals and intimidated people, and journalists, and politicians who disagree with the point of view of the authorities. Now in Ukraine dissidents killed in broad daylight, or driven to suicide.

The man who allows himself to criticize the government immediately declare “enemy of the people” or “agent of the Kremlin.” Today in Ukraine in prison may be anyone who does not follow the “general line” of the current regime. Authorities discovered using methods of political revenge initiated on trumped-up criminal charges against their political opponents. This is pure totalitarian system of power that controls everything and everyone in Ukraine.

For example, representatives of the Party of Regions “prescribed” guilty but only for what they had or have to do with this political force. We see that now the criminal prosecution is subject to one of the leaders of the Party of Regions, Alexander Efremov.

It is harassed Mayor of Kharkov Gennady Kernes. Authorities are trying to send to jail one of the best mayors of Ukraine, which recently re-vote majority of Kharkiv. This attempt on him, no one investigates!

A recent detention Helen Lucas – in fact it was actually a diversion of power from a failed attempt to arrest Korban and their pathetic attempts to show the alleged impartiality of the judicial system. However, striking cynicism with which the mother of two minor children illegally held in prison for several days, at a time when for it was timely submitted a pledge!

ZV: It is often said that in the political arena of Ukraine “opposition bloc” largely continues the line of the Party of Regions, honorary chairman of which you were up to the moment we left the Ukraine. Tell me, do you think “The opposition bloc,” the continuation of the Party of Regions, or is it an independent political force?

VY: Indeed, the majority of the “opposition bloc” – are former members of the Party of Regions. I know almost all of them quite well. But a lot of former members of the Party of Regions, now and in the Block Poroshenko! Therefore, if we talk about the Party of Regions, the answer is ambiguous. Who greatly loved power, he is now, but with a different political power has gone.

As for the “opposition bloc” … I understand that you can have different attitudes to them. And my attitude is different. But I can say one thing – even the fact that they have created a unit and went on this way now and in the current government – is a feat, bravery, can be named.

That is, they have the responsibility to tell the truth, to take responsibility to show an alternative to the current authorities. It’s good.

But, of course, if we talk about wishes, they sometimes do not have enough determination. Although I understand that, where resolution – there is repression. It does not just repression and sometimes even killing opponents. Therefore, I wish them to be more active, more concrete and more determined.

Source: Ukraina.Ru

Ukraine Revolution Predicted for 2016

Experts Predict Another Revolution in
Ukraine in Spring of 2016

Novorossia.su
Autotranslated with minor editing by Quemado Institute
December 7, 2015

slavdec7tAccording to experts, During the upcoming spring in Ukraine there may occur a powerful “social explosion”. Dissatisfied with the situation in the country, people will take to the streets again. To save the situation, serious reform and a change of government officials are needed, for which the political elite is apparently not ready.

Panic Spring

“A difficult period will be in February and May 2016, when the people will have survived the winter, paying exorbitant housing prices, the economy will continue to shrink, falling incomes, and prices rise. The chance of a social explosion in this period is estimated at 60%,” Tass was told by Director of the Institute of Ukrainian politics Ruslan Bortnik.

In turn, the Ukrainian political scientist Kirill Molchanov, said Tass, expressed the view that a new “Maidan” is possible, because now there is such situation when the lower classes so on cannot live, and the top officials do not want to change anything.

“In view of what has been lost in one and a half years, and no reform has been undertaken, the credit support of the people falls, as a result, we are entering a cold winter with high utility rates, so any Maidan can begin after some daring provocation,” the expert believes.

However, according to Molchanov, excluding social in favor of another protest can play also other factors. “The turmoil may be associated with an external factor, ie a factor of Donbass and the Crimea: in view of the situation in the zone of ATO may be seething in Kiev, as the right-wing radicals are dissatisfied with the course of the president on military doctrine. We brewing a bad cocktail, where there is an economic component – there is no improvement of life in connection with the reforms, social – 30 percent of Ukrainians in poverty, and the military aspect,” he concluded.

Alarming figures

Ukrainians protest mood in the fall reached the level of “Maidan” 2013-2014. Thus, according to a recent poll conducted by the sociological group “Rating”, more than half of respondents – 53% – said they would take to the streets in case of deterioration of the social situation of people. Only 28% of respondents are willing to endure financial difficulties for the sake of peace in the country.

Anxious oligarchs

Recently, concern about possible unrest in the state expressed once part of the ten richest Ukrainians, businessman, ex-governor of the Donetsk region, Sergei Taruta, who said that prior to the economic collapse of Ukraine left for 6 to 8 months. “The economic model shows that we have half a year, a maximum of 8 months. And it provided that during this time we change something,” he said “Ukrainian Truth “.  According to him, currently the likelihood of an optimistic scenario for Ukraine is only 5%. “And in order to implement these 5%, you need to match such a large number of positive factors. But everything else – or collapse, or the freezing of economic,” says the oligarch.

The latter, he added, will entail a social explosion, as if before the people were just unhappy, but now they are “aggressive and angry.”

“If oligarchs are sitting in their luxury cars, flying on its planes and living in villas, they see that it would be a social explosion, you are likely to say that it will. Or will the collapse of the political system and social explosion,” commented on the statement Taruta Bortnik.

Reckless budget

This week the Ministry of Finance published the draft state budget for 2016, which is possible only inflame discontent with ordinary people.

According to the leader of the public movement “Ukrainian choice” Viktor Medvedchuk, the budget “establishes the state of poverty and even the extreme poverty of the majority of Ukrainians.” Thus, according to Medvedchuk, a slight increase of social standards will not improve the lives of Ukrainians. In the budget there is a minimal increase in the minimum subsistence level – by 12% from 1330 to 1496 hryvnia (about $ 57.6 – $ 64.8 at the current rate), for a total of 172 hryvnia (about $ 7.5 at current exchange rates).

However, if you examine the forecasts of inflation in 2016, it becomes clear: a real increase in social standards would not, argues Medvedchuk. “Ukrainians threatens not even poverty, but a real poverty, and their struggle for survival becomes more desperate. And the 2016 budget, in effect, the law establishes that “, – summed up the public man.

One little problem

For any social conflict, as noted Bortnik, “you need three components: public opinion leaders that are trusted by this opinion, and money, which is hyping public opinion and of the leaders in the media.” According to the analyst, Ukraine, for a social explosion is only one component – public opinion. “Leaders who have trust, no. Leaders who appear from time to time, for example, Tatiana Montyan (lawyer, public figure), the government successfully discredited. The main challenge now political strategists authorities – to prevent the creation of alternatives,” said the expert, adding that the leaders may still appear “throughout this winter.”

The monetary component of the same, according to him, depends on the goodwill of the oligarchs. “While none of the oligarchs would not risk to a direct conflict with the government, did not dare to provide media platforms and financial resources for this protest. Trying this was – from the military-political group “Privat” (co-owner is the oligarch Igor Kolomoisky), but it ended with the detention of Gennady Korban (head of the party “Dill” associate Kolomoisky) and the defeat of the political group “- he recalled.

Option salvation

Predprotestnoy way out of this situation, according to the oligarch Taruta, maybe resignation of the current government and the formation of a technical cabinet to do with politics. “Who will try to reformat the existing structure, change the ministers, but do not change the system. My understanding – for technical government composed of technocrats, whose main task – to stabilize the situation, to keep at least that is. But the probability of this is not much,” he believes.

About the need to replace the first persons indicated by the results of public opinion. Over the past six months, the level of support for the idea of ​​the dissolution of parliament and new elections of deputies increased from 34% to 47%, the idea of ​​the appointment of new presidential elections – from 31% to 43%. About high probability of formation of all necessary conditions for the early parliamentary elections in Ukraine and said Bortnik. “It is very likely collapse of the coalition and an attempt to curb the political projects of individual protest potential to play the next political cycle, so it is very likely the formation of all the conditions for early parliamentary elections,” – he said.

If a revolution, it will be spontaneous

“By the spring ratings of President fall, handling the political and administrative system, too, there are oligarchs, who will run with this drowning ship and put on a new proest on the new political leaders who provide their resources in the next political cycle”, – predicts Bortnik. At the same time, according to Molchanov, for this requires a powerful social protest provocation. “If there is any provocation in the near future, I do not rule out that everything will unwind as the events that were two years ago. As a result, it can lead not only to the “Maidan” and a big coup with great sacrifice,” he warned. The situation, according to Molchanov, “may develop spontaneously: there will be no students, tents, songs Svyatoslav Vakarchuk (leader of the group “Okean Elzy”), it will be two or three days, and the spokesman of the revolutionary masses will take the stage, the crowd itself will make someone the top,” concluded the expert.

(Source: Russkaya Vesna)